Z-Chip Tuning - Whats needed?

[Capone]

Ok so if i wanted to start tuning my z-chip what would be required and what do you guys use?

Laptop
Logging software
What do i need aquire to data?
can you log directly from the ODBII port using software?

4th gear pulls?

[tsitalon1]

I use dynoscan through the obdII port, but right now there isn't anything that logs knock:mad:

[TTP Engineering]

We use a $80,000 Mustang Dyno AWD 500 available through www.mustangdyne.com.

:lol:

For the regular Joe, a program such as the one mentioned above or Zeitronix DashDaq are some great bets.

For a wideband, the ZEITRONIX wideband ZT2 is the way to go. Powered by Polish Engineering, they are the most accurate, reliable units available.

Options are:
Boost sensor 35.5psi
Boost sensor 60.3psi
Exhaust Gas Temp probe
Black LCD screen (displays up to 4 parameters at once)
52mm ZR1 gauge (AFR only)
52mm ZR2 gauge (switchable single display) AFR, BOOST, EGT, LAMBDA
available in silver or black bezel (surround)
Programmable ZAVT-1 audio visual alarm that illuminates and has an audible alarm for user selectible thresholds.

[ixsaves13]

I had both the zet ZT-2 with all the options / display and it was a great small package. As far as the accuracy / speed of the sensor reading i felt the innovate seemed more accurate and responded more quickly. What are your thoughts on the innovate?

[TTP Engineering]

I had both the zet ZT-2 with all the options / display and it was a great small package. As far as the accuracy / speed of the sensor reading i felt the innovate seemed more accurate and responded more quickly. What are your thoughts on the innovate?

Personally we are surprised Innovate has an ability to sell new units with all of the RMA (return merchandise authorization) returns they are receiving.

The Zeitronix units are made in the USA and are NOT outsourced to Taiwan or China for subpar quality control.

I urge interested parties all of the time to visit www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/ to see how many people have problems with the product line.

[Zeitronix]

I had both the zet ZT-2 with all the options / display and it was a great small package. As far as the accuracy / speed of the sensor reading i felt the innovate seemed more accurate and responded more quickly. What are your thoughts on the innovate?

Let's look at the feel from the engineering stand point. The Zt-2 outputs digitally each value at 74 samples per second. The internal sensors update rate is 1000 times per second. However the LCD refreshes values 3 times per second so our eyes can actually read it. The ZR-1 and ZR-2 gauges numbers change 4 times per second, the outers leds update 74 times per second since you do not need to percept acutal number, just led location and color

If the Zt-2 Wideband is accurate and fast enough for Pratt & Whitney to design and test the jet engines it's accurate and fast enough for your EVO :)

[dkstas]

So what parameters should I log? AFR's, timing, load %, etc... Thanks.

[TTP Engineering]

so what parameters should i log? Afr's, timing, load %, etc... Thanks.

afr, tps, rpm, ignition timing advance

[Deepseadiver]

So.. when your on the dyno tuning cars, how do you log knock. Do you have a stand alone knock sensor? or can you tell when the ECU is pulling timing?

I was really thinking of the DashDaq with the wideband O2 set up. Is that all I need?

[TTP Engineering]

We have the ecu mapping on paper and can map trace based on rpm and ignition timing advance.

We also look for dropping ignition timing.

For example if we are watching the rpms climb and see 10, 11, 11, 12, 14, 15, 13, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18 etc and it corresponds to a dip on the dynosheet, then we know changes have to be made.

[Deepseadiver]

OK, now I get it. What can I get that would log timing advance? Dose the dashdaq show it?

[TTP Engineering]

OK, now I get it. What can I get that would log timing advance? Dose the dashdaq show it?

Yes dashdaq displays and also can record to SD card for later review.

[Deepseadiver]

Great could you or Scott PM me a price for the dashdaq setup with every thing needed to safetly monitor engine vitals.

[TurboGard]

Do you have to add the wideband on the Evo X with a Z chip installed or will the stock A/F sensor work?

[TTP Engineering]

To tune accurately the Zeitronix ZT2 wideband is the way to go.

If anyone wants to download the software interface and play around with it, you may download it here. This is the interface for the WIDEBAND SYSTEM, not the ZChip.
http://www.zeitronix.com/images/ZDL_V_2.0.13_InstallationFiles.zip

I would NEVER recommend trying to tune with a narrowband O2.

[TTP Engineering]

Great could you or Scott PM me a price for the dashdaq setup with every thing needed to safetly monitor engine vitals.

Dashdaq is $679 for the unit with touchscreen itself.

The Dashdaq and zeitronix package is $879 for the combo which saves you $79 off of the separate pricing.

The Zeitronix ZT2 is $274 from www.ttp-engineering.com/catalog
and there are many options there for boost, egt, alarm, etc.